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Sunday, January 18, 2015
Authentic Assessment
Hey friends! I hope everyone is having a great weekend. The focus of my blog is about authentic assessment. Luckily for me I have a retired fourth grade teacher for a Grammy. She was also a graduate of Ball State with a focus in reading. I had her read the part of the chapter about authentic assessment to get her opinion. Her opinion goes like this: She personally believed that it is unrealistic and wouldn’t work in a modern day classroom. Ideally this strategy will be perfect, but realistically classrooms are become larger and students have more physical, mental, and emotional problems and to leave them alone in centers might be unrealistic. The teacher to student ratio is not ideal. She sees the benefits of authentic assessment. Throughout the years she was teaching she had created a checklist that is easier to just check off then she could go add notes to it later. She thinks that creating a system like that is just being a good teacher. She doesn’t think that the checklist or process that you go through needs to be done everyday. Grammy states “kids don’t need the additional pressure of having the teacher constantly making notes about the work they are doing. It is a teacher’s responsibility to be making mental notes on what their students are doing.” She also wouldn’t want to do it in a group because students who have a reading issue would feel badly about themselves because students do know when they are bad readers. If she grouped them by ability she would do a group assessment with better readers. Although she saw many negatives to some of the authentic assessments she liked that you could give the students instant feedback with the authentic assessment. The ‘listen to my voice’ example really struck her heart. The idea that she is a firm believer of is that the top students with succeed no matter what setting they are in and that the kids that have an IEP with end up succeeding as well because they do get the extra help, it is the students in the middle that teachers really need focus on when it specifically comes to reading. In the end, she believes that the teacher has to do what is best for the teacher and the students. She also wanted me to say that her entire opinion on this topic is based on a reading program, not the other subjects. I personally believe everything that she has said about it is true. As future teachers I feel most of us idealize what our classroom is going to be like and we are probably wrong. We won’t have 15-20 students, we will probably have 20-30; we won’t get all of the aids and help that we need. It’s a hard thing to imagine, but we know that it is most likely going to be that way when we start teaching. Most classrooms have too many students in them these days and yes, individualized lesson plans are ideal but it is very hard to do that. Lets say we are just working with one student on their reading checklist, what are the other 20 students in the classroom doing? Busy work? I know I don’t want my other students doing busy work. It is finding the balance in the classroom on what type of assessment is best for you, your students and what your school requires. I really would like opinions and questions on what my Grammy had to say about assessment and what you think would work best in your future classroom.
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Wow you post was very insightful! I thought you brought up a lot of good points in your post! You brought up the point that her ideas don't really work any more because of class size and because of all the mental, and physical problems kids have now a days. Do you really believe that kids have changed that much over time? I believe that classroom size has, but I also think that we are just noticing and understanding more about what children had years ago just no one ever talked about them. I also thought the comment about the students should be taking the notes but the teach should, I thought was very interesting. We also turn it on the students to see what more they could of done to really improve in the classroom but what if we took more notes on them and really understood what they needed from us. I think in that aspect you are totally right.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment :) I would like to reply to your comment about noticing and understanding. It is the noticing and understanding that has made us realize that the changes are happening. The students that need that help are now able to get it versus the students are "stuck in the middle." So I don't think kids have changed that much but the way we view them has. And in some sense the children have changed. I have noticed more and more stories and articles about the increase in the amount of children who are already addicted to substances because their mom was using. So it is the choice of the child that they are changing? No, but it is happening and I think it is important we recognize it.
DeleteThank you for such a thoughtful post! I understand and agree partly with your Grammy and your opinion, but I definitely do not believe that authentic assessment is not possible. It is something that can be done time to time. Obviously, you can't carry around a clipboard all day and constantly write down your observations, but you can keep them in your head or find other easy ways to remember something that happen. I had a professor tell us a story about how in her classroom, she wanted to record how many times a student talked out during her lesson. Instead of trying to remember while teaching a lesson or writing it down in an obvious way, she kept paper clips in her pocket and each time the student talked out, she moved a clip to the other pocket so she just had to count them later. As teachers we have to be creative and find ways to assess our students in different ways. I definitely don't know all the ways, but I think that you just have to brainstorm and research until you find ways that work in your classroom.
ReplyDeleteAlso, my mom works in an elementary school. Part of her job is just going to different classrooms and testing them on different subjects to mark their progress. It is something the whole school does. They have a certain system they do. So maybe you yourself will not have to do all the assessing. You could possibly be in school that has a system like this!
Finally, I think you are right. The class sizes have increased and it is harder to give students individual attention. Sometimes I think about all the things I need to consider and do to be what I believe to be a great teacher and get very overwhelmed, but I think if there is a will, there is a way! I think that we will all find ways to be the best teachers we can be.
I really enjoyed reading about your Grammy and her ideas. I found myself nodding in agreement the whole time I was reading. I agree teachers need to make mental notes all the time about their students. It is our responsibility as teachers to make sure we know where our students are, and if they are falling behind or not.
ReplyDeleteI do agree we have an ideal classroom in our heads, and that realistically that our classroom won't be the same. I do think it is important though to try and make the best of your situation and make it seem like your classroom is ideal by tweaking those plans to fit the needs of your new classroom. It is important as teachers to be prepared for any type of situation, and if you really wanted to do authentic assessment there should be a way to go about it that works best for you.
Although I will never be able to fully understand how today's classroom has changed from the past when I wasn't alive, I do believe in the physical evidence that class size has definitely grown. I think it is also imperative to think about all of the diversity that is now in the classroom. I know that many will think I'm referring to race or SES, but I think that the reason teachers nowadays require/desire more aids in the classroom is not only because of the increased classroom size, but definitely because of the amount of IEP's, and mental/physical/emotional barriers that students have, as you mentioned. Now do students really have more issues now than they had in the past, I'm not entirely sure. But I am sure that with the evolution of science and knowledge, people are definitely more aware of the different problems that children are facing and are trying to be more proactive in solving those problems. I agree with the point that says teachers need to focus on the "kids in the middle", because oftentimes I do think there is a greater emphasis on helping the kids that are excelling and the ones that are falling behind. How do you think we should approach targeting for the students in the middle?
ReplyDeleteHi Alyssa! I did really enjoy your post, and it is great that you have someone close to you to talk to about your future career. I thought your Grammy's ideas were very interesting, but I also think that in recent years the classroom has changed quite a bit. I have to disagree with what your Grammy said about centers being idealistic. I think that depending on the grade level of the students, they will be able to work in centers. I think an important aspect of this is making sure that there are engaging activities for the students at each center so that they are able to focus and they enjoy the centers that they work at. I also agree with your Grammy that it adds pressure to be evaluating students on paper right in front of them, because it causes them to worry about what they are doing and if they are doing it right or not. However, I think with a lot of students it would be hard to take mental notes. I think that some things should be written down just not right in front of the students. Thanks again for your Grammy's insight!
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